Real Beauty with FD

Season 5 Real Beauty with FD: Ombre lips, lamination brows, treating hair loss and all the beauty in-between featuring Christina Fernandez

francene davidson Season 5 Episode 4

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Hey, welcome to real beauty with This is part two of my awesome conversation with Christina Fernandez. So we will continue to speak about. Lashes brows, um, different trends. And all things, beauty and everything else in between. So I appreciate last week. I definitely kicked off the episode. With a little bit of a downer. Um, where I had mentioned. And, um, and I guess a little trigger warning. Um, I'd mentioned that I'd gone through my second miscarriage or. So I thought last week, Um, and honestly, looking back, I actually wish that was the case, which is a terrible thing to think. Um, but now it's neuron, you know, a week later I found out that. Unfortunately, I had an Kotick pregnancy. Which through my research I understand is very rare. Um, I've spoken about this. On Instagram. I know I've been a little bit quiet on social media and I guess I'm just trying to kind of deal All of this myself. Um, So, unfortunately he had a contact pregnancy. Um, and it wasn't caught in enough time despite. Trying to go, um, you know, to hospital a couple of times to my doctor. Um, and then I ended up having emergency surgery while I was on vacation. My Thai Clearly, I don't like doing things by half. I like to have that touch of dramatic newness. Um, So, yeah, I had emergency surgery where they had to remove, um, the pregnancy, which had ruptured my right fallopian tube. Um, some, fortunately they also had to remove the tube, which sucked. Um, so I'm just down to the left side, which I'm feeling very optimistic about. Um, and certainly the last couple of days. I feel like it's been very surreal. Um, I think fortunately we've had family in time in town, so it's actually being a welcome distraction. Um, I'm kind of dreading them going and then. We're definitely going to have more time You know, reflect and think about it. But I hope by that point, I will be less aware. I feel at the moment I'm walking like an old Um, To be honest. The pain I feel right now is as if I've given birth. And it sucks cause I haven't. Um, so I feel like it's bringing back a lot of memories of when I had Luna. That you know, without the baby. Um, but anyway, Um, I don't want to, you know, continue to put a downer on my punk-ass. Um, But I will continue to update you guys. Hopefully I will heal soon. Um, and I have a checkup with my doctor in a week. So I'm looking forward to kind of hearing. Whether what the next steps are. What does this mean? Um, So I definitely feel fortunate. Um, despite the circumstances. And later on, I will be kind of interviewing a couple people that are experts within the space and. You know, certainly for me, um, this has been a whole education, even just going through. The miscarriage initially. I didn't truly understand. The process. I wasn't exposed to it before. Again, women, we are not the best at. Talking about these types of subjects. Subjects. And of course, why would be right? We You know, Made to feel like we can't speak about pregnancy until we're at the 12 week mark. And then we announce it. It's all over Instagram. Um, or social media, you tell your friends and family, Um, certainly kind of Going through this. For the second time, but with different circumstances, It's horrible. Um, not Able to kind of make people aware at work Feeling good or my hormones are all over the place. And then it's like, unfortunately, that guilt and shame that when you do lose a baby, It's as if you can't address it or talk about. At it, which sucks. Um, and you It definitely wasn't easy. Talking about it so openly on social media. And I appreciate all of the comments. Messages, um, And the overwhelming response of thank you for talking about it. So. Oh, no. I try not to, um, you know, avoid discussions, but. It's definitely not been easy. So anyway, without further ado, before I get emotional, no one needs to hear this on their commute to, or from Um, but I just want to say I appreciate it and I hope you don't mind me. Continuing to kind of talk about this subject as I learn to deal with it and, um, educate myself and others. Around it. Um, It definitely helps me with the healing process. So. I will stop talking. Well, pass it back to, uh, Christina Fernandez, who I love talking to, and I really hope you guys. Enjoy it. And, um, again, I appreciate all of the support I continue to say, but, um, it really means a lot. There's just being able to kind of This podcast and have this platform, I feel. Very very fortunate.

francene:

It's so much more fashionable to have like big brows, like compared to when I was growing up. I love Christina ALA. And even when my mom was growing up, like brows were very thin, they were over clocked. Um, so I, I kinda appreciate this more, kinda natural. Like we want them bushy, but I'm trying to get my head around them. Oh, what's a new trend. It's like, Lamination. Is it lamination?

christina:

Yes. So it's, it's called brow. Yes.

francene:

Yes. Brow. Tell me more about that.

christina:

I'm I mean, your eyebrows still look great if you haven't done them in three years. Um, so brow lamination is not for everybody. So brow lamination gives you that lifted look where you're pretty much combining the eyebrow hair up. It's meant to give you a look where they appear to be fuller, but they only could be fuller. And even if you also tint them, tinting is, is only 10 thing is only, um, Temporary mm-hmm so you constantly have to tend them to keep up with the look for some people, eyebrow lamination looks amazing on them because they just have the format of the eyebrows to be lifted up and for it to stay like that. And some people like the crazy bushy look and they don't do anything to them. So eyebrow amination I think it's good. I feel like it's not for everyone though. and usually when people do come in or they do, or I do see that they actually book online. I ask them, Hey, do you know what it entails? Um, you know, that it, you know, we have to pretty much test it out and see if it fits you and see maybe the whole technique or the whole format of lifting it up. We don't have to use it on the whole eyebrow so we can use it on half the eyebrow and this, you can still get the same look, the purpose of it. it replaces like a wax. I know a lot of people are doing waxes yeah. For their eyebrows and it keeps the hair in place. So the lamination also, you don't have to get that crazy lifted. Look, you can also get that nice wax look where it creates the eyebrows, make them flat some parts of the eyebrows straight up. So it doesn't move. And every morning you don't have to calm them. You just color them or do what you do with them. I feel

francene:

like we're always kind of searching for that. Um, The convenience. Right? Mm-hmm like, we wanna just wake up and go. So microblading, like lamination spray, tan, like whatever we can do just to wake up and have less, less stuff to do in our bodies. I mean, for me, I'm all for it. Like anything for an easier

christina:

life. Yes, absolutely.

francene:

So I guess, um, when you're looking at makeup and then you're taking into consideration, um, the browse. When you focus on someone's makeup. So say if I'm, you know, looking okay. I work in corporate. So in the mornings I've limited time, mainly because I have a four year old. So I'm constantly trying to battle with her to get ready for. Going to school or going to daycare. Um, is there any kinda areas of your face or makeup products that you are like, this is a must, like every day, this's a must. If you just do your brows or you at mascara, like what would you kind of recommend for the kinda everyday, um,

christina:

girl? So I'm also a mom of a five year old girl, which. I also have a boy, who's now a teenager, but I felt like getting ready in the morning, literally drags with these girls. They're so slow. so I, I think the most go to, and they're just slow. They're whiny. They, yeah, they're very sensitive in the morning. Yeah. So from me, nice way of painting it. so for me, I throw on concealer moisturizer. Concealer and make sure my eyebrows look good. Um, lip. And for me, that's my everyday look, if, um, I feel like putting on a little browser. Um, so what I actually have, I use my own brand, which is a concealer to foundation stick. And I focus on more of my under eyes because that's where I, you know, I feel like they're a little dark. I throw on lipstick. I make sure my eyebrows are done and I don't even put on mascara. Sometimes. I just, you know, I would love to have, you know, to have the right mascara. Um, but sometimes I just don't feel like putting on lashes or just putting on mascara. And as long as I feel like your eyebrows are done and a little lipstick and concealer, I think you're ready to go

francene:

oh yeah, for sure. Anything just to make you look like you're more awake yes. Um, so on that, is there any kinda pre um, Products that you would use before you start putting on makeup. So you have rose water and I know you have other products. I love rose bar. So tell me all about

christina:

it. So rose water. Is actually also a setting spray for makeup. So rose water, you can use a set of a primer. You can use it before, after your moisturizer, you spray your face. You can just go throw on some lipstick and go, or you can also use that as you're prepping so you can use the rose water. After your moisturizer and start putting on your foundation. If it's depending on the look that you're going for, it is a little wet, but once you're, if you're applying your foundation, it just blends right in, put more rose water after the foundation, finish your look and spray more rose water at the end. And it is perfect for a setting spray. Oh,

francene:

that's awesome. I did not know that. Um,

christina:

and then for, but also use primer. So you would use the primer before the rosewater. Ah,

francene:

do you know, I'm so bad at using primer. I've also never used the sang spray. Um, so I'm definitely gonna try rose war for sure. Um,

christina:

yes, if you're, if you're looking just for one thing. Yeah. I think setting spray or rose water, it'd be perfect. Okay,

francene:

great. I will definitely take that advice. And when it comes to concealer and foundation, what are your tips for application? Do you use a sponge, a brush? Do you use your fingers? Like what do you think has the best

christina:

result? I, I I've been going, I go back and forth. Um, right now what I'm using is a beauty blender. Yeah. Um, so. Pretty or I use, I do, I am the old school finger girl where I do use my finger. Um, but I think if, um, Basically, I've gone through the period where I was using a brush. Um, but I think the best, what I find more better for me right now that I'm using is the sponge, the beauty, blender, beauty, blending sponges. I think it for a concealer, it works great. It blends right in and you can just go, um, that's, that's what I find best. And I don't use heavy foundation, um, on an everyday basis. I, I do use like a stick where I just. Coloring my imperfections, if I have any, um, for that, you know, for that day or that week and then pretty much just focusing on clearing up my dark circles with the stick.

francene:

Yeah. And my skin's really bad, especially, um, You know, kind of monthly, I will get like one or two massive pimples that I swear to God, nothing will cover them up. Um, but I also have like a lot of red, red pigments. So I always feel in the morning, it's always my under eye. And then I will kind of. Fill in areas, but I'm the same, like, I don't love wearing foundation or feeling anything heavy on my face, but at the same time I want the coverage, you know, I want, yeah. I want my skin to be clear.

christina:

yeah, definitely not. I think with you, definitely not something heavy every day. Maybe just a liquid to foundation stick would do the job, especially if you're doing it every day.

francene:

Yes. And, you know, that's, and I dunno how you kind of felt from like a business standpoint, going through the last couple of years of COVID. Um, but for me, and my full time job is working in a corporate office. It was such a nice break from doing my hair from doing my makeup. Like, honestly, my skin has never looked better and now we're like, I go into the office every single day and I'm like, God, sometimes my skin looks so du and I do a lot of face masks. Like I really look after my skin, but I'm like, God, it's so much better when you wear nothing. Yeah. And then you fall into the routine of like, oh, I feel like I have to, you know,

christina:

I know I was going through. So before I actually came up with my skincare and makeup line, the first products that I did come up with was skincare. Yeah. And before that I stopped buying, uh, products in the store. I actually started going onto Pinterest and Googling natural mask to do at home. Yeah. With. Flower, whatever I can find just for whatever issue I was having at the time for my face acne scarring was big for me, dry skin, flaky skin. Then when I did come up with my skincare line, everything in my skincare line was vitamins or natural products. Mm-hmm

francene:

And is there, what would you recommend, um, in your skincare routine for? Um, so I'll. Take myself as an example, I have like combination skin, um, mainly cuz I live in Texas. So I grew up in Scotland and my skin was very flaky, very dry and moving to Texas where it's so hot and humid. I feel like it's my skin's got a lot better, but then it's so oily sometimes. Like I really struggle with like my T-zone.

christina:

Um, so I mean, what we, I like simple skincare. I hate. Five to six different things that you have to do for skincare. Yeah. So what I, I use a lot of my own products and I do have a, uh, face wash that has vitamin C and vitamin E and it's for all skin types. And I've noticed by co being consistent with it. You do. I started to see like my acne scarring going down my face, feeling more, um, moisturized and a lot of women who do have oily of combination skin have been using it as well. they've had good, really good results. Um, also what's also, you could be using for all types of skin is also a H ironic acid serum. Yeah, which absorbs into the skin. It could be used as a moisturizer.

francene:

Yeah. I really need to, um, add that. I'm do, you know, I'm good with skincare, but I'm also sometimes inconsistent that when I run out of something, I will then try something else and I don't typically replace it with that same ingredient. So then, I mean, honestly, that's actually probably why, like my. I I see sometimes it looks amazing and other times I'm like, God, are you OK? Skin?

christina:

hyaluronic acid is huge on a lot of products. Even in lip care, they're putting H acid because it it's for so many things. It's for a lines and wrinkles. It's for moisture it's for a lot of different. Yeah.

francene:

Okay. I will definitely look into that. Cause I think that's the one ingredient I don't have in any of my skincare right now. Um, so I will definitely follow up, um, How did you get into the teaching side of things? Was that always something you were passionate about on always the plan? Um,

christina:

I loved teaching. I just never knew that I was really good at it. Um, I always loved teaching, but I never wanted to teach in a school. like education, educational academic courses, but I love teaching something that I love to do. And the reason why I got into teaching is because I started to notice. People that were getting into becoming trainers were charging so much money and not teaching everything and leaving a lot of things out. Also, they were teaching only half of the technique, knowing that new techniques have come out and they weren't targeting it, but charging for a whole other. Yeah. Um, to learn that technique. So all my classes, I teach all techniques and all my classes, and whenever there's something new, it doesn't have to be the next year. If it comes out in two weeks, I'm going to te learn it and teach it to my class.

francene:

That's awesome. Um, yeah, that's so good. I'm I feel like that's. So much of what people don't do to your point, they will kinda hide things away and then kind of take advantage of oh, great. Now I know. And I'm willing to share this with you, so pay for more. Um, right. So what are you seeing as the kinda key trends coming up for, um, specifically makeup? Cause I feel like it involves. All the time from baking from contouring, we mentioned the lamination of your brows. I feel like I can't keep up and I research quite a lot.

christina:

yeah. So makeup, I think for spring, for spring makeup is more of a mentality. Um, more of, um, what is it called? Um, Holographic look. Yeah. Um, they're doing that very shiny, you know, lip glosses in now. Um, now that we're starting to slow down on wearing masks, a lot of people are starting to wear the lip gloss. Now, um, bright colors are gonna still be in, but more nudes. Um, nude. It's like a mixture. I think more, more nudes for this, this spring and summer, but more, a lot more glasses. I've been seeing a lot more glasses, a lot of glitter and glam.

francene:

Yeah. I'm honestly, I'm all about this. Especially after wearing a mask, I feel like the minute we kinda step back from wear masks a lot here. I've never worn so much lipstick than I have in the last, like five months and bought so much lipstick. I missed it so much.

christina:

Yeah. We always in the store and we always grab a lipstick, right?

francene:

Yes. Oh my and the same, like anything glitter shimmer. I'm all for it. Um, so what has been well

christina:

also in the, in the lash business color is in, so I've been seeing a lot of requests for color lashes or a little bit of color in their lashes. Yeah.

francene:

Only gosh, but wait, like their real

christina:

lashes are like, no, just some extensions with extensions when they request extensions. Yeah. So you're gonna see a lot of color in their eyes because they're always, they're requesting glitter and they're requesting colored lash.

francene:

Oh, I can definitely jump on board with this trend. So knowing that you've brought up, um, lash extensions, this has been one space that I have really wanted to try, but I'm fearful that it will ruin my natural lashes. So tell me, um, how kind are they to your eyes? Like, would you recommend them, like, are there best ways of like. Doing proper maintenance if you have eyelash

christina:

extensions. Yes. So, um, a lot of people think that you lose your lash, your natural lashes, and it's a total myth. Yeah. What happens is. We lose two to three lashes a day 21 lashes a week 43 lashes every two weeks, um, 63 lashes every three weeks. But we don't, if we don't have lash extensions on, we don't even notice we're losing that many because we're rubbing our eyes. We're sleeping. Yeah. They're falling off and all, you know, throughout the day now, when we actually attach. Hair onto each and, or, you know, self-made fans to make the volume. We're attaching them to every single hair. So we each, so each of us have between 90 to 125 hairs on their eye, on our eyes. And we're lash artists are to adhesive. Um, Lash extensions to create volume looks. And what they do is if you are due to shed, we also go through a 30 to 60 day shedding cycle, which that's when people have their lash extensions on. For four to six weeks straight and doing their touchups not taking breaks. They are. That's when pretty much you start to hear, Ugh, I need to take a break because I feel like I'm losing my lashes. You're not losing your lashes. You're actually just going through a 30 to 60 day shedding cycle. And that's where people think they actually losing their lashes. Oh, my

francene:

gosh. I did not know that at all. No one has ever been able to explain, um, that to me, that's, that's really helpful. So if, um, so say if I went and got, um, you know, lash extensions tomorrow, Is like, do you think there should be a natural break or like some of my girlfriends they've had last extensions for years without taking, you know, them out. Mm-hmm um, do you think there should be a natural? Okay. After like six months, like take like a month break or have that

christina:

consistency there's there's an alternative. There's a lash. Alternative where you always should take a, you know, you should take a break because I think not everybody properly cleans them. They're to be cleaned every day with lash shampoo. Um, it's a specific shampoo for lashes. Sure. No one does that.

francene:

Or majority people don't

christina:

majority of them, don't they tell you that they lay there and they tell you that they do. But what happens is they cannot. See what I see from a different angle. Yeah. And they don't see that, you know, where they may be cleaning their face in the front, but they don't know that they're not actually cleaning in between the lashes. Yeah. Um, so that's when, you know, when they do come in for their touchups, that's when it could, they could be probably costing them more to fill them more because we would have to clean the old ones out or the ones that are affected by possibly even eyeliner that they don't clean. They say they do

francene:

oh God. I can only imagine the amount of people that go to sleep with their makeup on from the night before. Yeah. Um, but so you mentioned the lash lift. Now. I feel like we don't speak about this enough. I got this done for my wedding because I was scared of getting lash extensions. I cannot express how much of a difference it made. Yeah. And especially with the tint, it was crazy. And it lasted, I mean, it typically lasts like what, six to eight weeks. Yes, it was great, amazing service.

christina:

Yes. So a lash lift is, um, It's similar to a perm, cuz it does smell like perm. Yeah. Um, but it's a lot gentler and it's made for, you know, gentle for the eyes. It is lifting your own lashes and anyone can do this. You can have long lashes, medium, even short lashes. I've seen amazing results with short lashes. Um, and it's just giving you a lift. And when we look at each other, you know, we. See if we don't have mascara on, we don't see our lashes, but when you do this lift, sometimes you can even walk up the house without mascara.

francene:

Yes. I honestly, I didn't wear mascara and I've been, so God, this is so bad. I've been married for like over eight years. And I've been talking about doing this again. For over eight years cause it was so good and I really need to book in, but yeah, I remember, um, like the whole time I was on honeymoon and then for weeks after I didn't wear mascara. Yeah. And it was so great. Cause you, you couldn't tell, cause my lashes were so dark and um, yeah. Perfect shape. So it's definitely, um, highly recommend. Oh, a hundred percent. And again, I feel like it's one of those services that we talk so much. Extensions and tinting, but we never talk about, okay. You can actually like, um, perm your lash. Yes,

christina:

yes.

francene:

Yeah. Genius. Um, so what about hair? Do you have any. Um, tips on hair care that you live by or products that you swear by.

christina:

I'm not an expert in hair cause it's really not my field, but for me, um, probably not. What I do know you shouldn't be doing, it's constantly not blowing out your hair and ironing your hair. Yeah. So that's kinda like, I'm not an expert with hair, so I don't know all hair textures. I actually been learning because my daughter has completely different hair than I do. Very curly coilly curly hair. Yeah. So what. Learning is how to deal with curly hair, keeping it moisturized, keeping it calm, tango free, trying different products, that condition the hair. And I never realized how important it was to keep hair moisturized. I never went through it with my own hair. So going, treating someone with curly curly hair has really changed my life. oh yeah.

francene:

I bet. Especially if you're not used to it. Um, I just purchased, um, and I cannot remember the name of the company. But Jennifer Anderson just released her, um, like hair care. And of course, because as Jennifer Anderson, I'm that person that's like, I'm gonna buy it immediately. Hoping my hair will be like hers. Um, but it so far, I haven't actually used it, but it smells delicious. So I'm like, okay, this might do something, but I'm forever trying to find product. That work. And again, living in Texas, I feel like my hair gets so dry in the summer that I spend the whole time just keeping it up. And then on the days that it's nice. I, I just can't control it. It's normally in like a frizzy mass. Um, yeah, I feel like we're, we're all in the journey to try and find the

christina:

magic product. Yeah. So what I do actually do know of, and I do have is, um, treating hair loss. So I do have like der rollers that are actually like, uh, another word for der roller microneedling treatment. Yeah. And so if you've heard of it for the face, it actually also works for hair loss and treating, um, Your hair loss, parts of your, maybe the sides of your head, um, wherever your thinning hair, you can actually stimulate hair growth with Derma rollers. No way.

francene:

Oh my gosh. I did not know that. Um, like, would you recommend doing it yourself at home

christina:

or go, so a der roller is something you can purchase. Yeah. Um, actually do it at home every night, depending on the size. Cuz they do come in such different sizes. There is one particular size that is made for hair loss. Oh,

francene:

God, that's a great tip. I feel like myself and the, um, majority of my girlfriends that have had kids, especially around the front. Yes.

christina:

So

francene:

much. And it's kinda in this, I mean, gosh, my daughter's gonna be four and I feel like I'm in this, in between like baby hair, but I. Are you growing or are we just stuck in this random place? Um, no, that's a, that's a great tip. Um, have you had micro, um, needling, like on your

christina:

face? So I've actually, um, been consistent with it probably last week. Um, I really kind of focused on my skincare last week where I did it every other night. And what, what. Long microneedling or using your Dermer roller is actually you start to see results long after the treatment, like days after. Yeah. So I started to notice probably this week on, in a, in the beginning of this week, more of what the treatment that I was doing last week, um, actually did for my face. So I noticed that my dark, you know, scarring of maybe like old acne scarring has went down. Um, yeah. And I noticed a little bit of difference. So once you be, once you are consistent with it, you will be more, you'll see the results a lot more.

francene:

It's so true. Isn't it? Like consistency is a key for everything. Yeah. Whereas I feel like so many of us, like, we'll do a face mask like once a month and then be like, why is my skin not better? Or like you use. I, I dunno, like you use a certain product and you're like, why didn't that work? Why are my dark circles not gone? It's like, cause you used it once. yeah. Like none of this is like miracle. Um, it's consistency. So, um, going back to the products that, um, you've put together and that you sell with Madeline beauty, um, how, how have you come up with different ideas for the products? Is it more on, this is what you typically use. Um, do you have ideas for more products in the future?

christina:

Yeah, so, um, I actually do use all my products. I know it sounds. Um, strange, but I do test out my products before I sell them for at least a month. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I do also, um, what, I pretty much look at products now, if I see something I like, I, you know what I'm, so that's kinda like my model lately. Um, I started a new, um, so I have makeup. I have, uh, lip losses. Mm-hmm I. Um, and I have, you know, cream mat, um, I have lip liners and I do take a long time to decide, to pick a vendor, to pick someone. Um, I, I do a lot of investigating. I do a lot of even just to get a sample. I do a lot of want that sample to be the one Yeah. So I look into, you know, how long it lasts and I do test it out myself. I do give it. Sometimes to friends and family and say, Hey, listen, test this out for me. Tell me your opinion. Um, I have from lip BALs that have CBD in it, I have, um, the rose water spray. I have the cleansers. Um, I also have teeth whitening pens, um, just kind of with my, you know, dentistry background. I also have, so I have eyebrow pencils and I have a really good tweezer set tweezer kit. That's all the team. Um, yeah. So the tweezer kit I've been it's, it's been turned into a universal, um, tweezer that a lot of women who work with wigs and making wigs have been using the tweezer, um, kit and they actually love it. So I am now creating, um, a univers. Course a part of that and addressing it and kind of just focusing on to, with women who do, do wigs for a living or to like, to actually make their own wigs at home, the tweezer, um, it works really well and the girls, they love it. God. That's so cool.

francene:

That's awesome. And especially when you can get feedback or you can see how people are using the products, um, or tools, and you're like, great. That's exactly why or, okay, great. How can I improve on this? Um, so you mentioned lip liners. I feel are also kinda making a bit more of a comeback over the last kinda six months compared to certainly, um, since I've been doing my makeup, um, as a teenager, like we would overline. So being from the UK. And I, I dunno if this is global, but we would overline in like the darkest shade and then we would have the newest lips. It was a horrifically bad look. Um, so I always imagine lip liner like that, and I always had a kind of negative connotation, whereas now I feel like I always use lip liner now. And I feel like there's so much benefit in, you know, kind of lining your. What that does. So can you explain more from like a technique standpoint on why yeah. People should be using it?

christina:

So lip liner is now used to blend, so it's pretty much used as a, um, so you don't draw out of your line. So when you do put on your ma your lipstick, you're not going outside. So it's really used as a security. Now it's really not used to make a huge statement. Yeah. But it's more. The colors that you're wearing. I think a nice nude color of lip liner will actually go with any color of lipstick because it's not meant the lip liner is not meant to make a statement. It's more for you to blend it into your, to your lipstick. Yeah. You see, oh, go for. No, I'm sorry. So a lip liner can actually also be used as a lipstick and it lasts a lot longer. Yes,

francene:

I have done this. Um, I got, oh my God. What is the name of, um, Charlotte talk. So I have the lip liner and I also have the lipstick and sometimes I will just use the liner and you're right. Like the, I feel like it stays longer. I feel like sometimes the shade is, is a little bit like deeper. Um, have you also, I've seen this technique where the use the liner to kind of contour the lip. Have

christina:

you seen that? Yes. Yes. So they actually choose like a different color for the inside. Yeah. And. Like, OBRA what they call the OBRA look. Yeah. OBRA lips. Yes. It's, it's a thing. so OBRA brows, OBRA lips. Um, and it could be used different ways. So sometimes you can start, you can use a lighter lip liner, blend it into a different color of the lipstick or use it. The. Yeah,

francene:

that, that's what I've seen. I was watching someone on Instagram. I feel like that's how I learn so much of these trends. And I'm like, oh, I did not know you could do that. I feel like I've only, I haven't even mastered contouring. And now I feel like it's kind of being phased out a little bit and I'm like, thank God, cuz I was not very good at it. My face just looked dirty. um, So what we normally do. Um, and I'm, I'm conscious of time cuz I could talk all day about these subjects. Um, but what I normally do is I kind of quick fire rounds, so whatever pops into your head, tell me the answer. Um, so what is your favorite cocktail?

christina:

Um, I only drink one amaretto sour.

francene:

Oh, that's a great cocktail though. Good for you. um, I thought you were gonna say, I dunno, like a boring one. I was like, no, that's a good one. Like, you sounded love negative going into that. Um, cinema or home, maybe home movies. I hear you. Um, what is your most used emoji?

christina:

Oh, the twisted face one. Yeah. He's it for everything.

francene:

um, if you were a sex and city character, who would you be? Oh, what

christina:

character? Sex and sitting. Oh, everybody calls me Charlotte. Oh, I

francene:

love that. I'm Charlotte too. Oh, I really wanna be Carrie Bradshaw and then I want a hint of Samantha, but I'm Charlotte Yeah. Um, if you could pick only two skincare products, what

christina:

would they be? Um, moisturizer for sure. Um, and definitely a spray.

francene:

Yes, the RIR right. Probably the ROS Um, and if you could pick two makeup products, what would they be?

christina:

Concealer and lips. Yeah. Concealer is like a mass for me, concealer and all.

francene:

Yes. Yes. And I, so is this your lip color

christina:

by the way? This is my lip color. Yeah. This is from my, um, lip, uh, matte lip line lip, sorry, matte lip line. Um, yeah, so they're creamy. It's like a creamy, oh, it's very color. What's the common called? Um, it's right now it's just an. Just the number, um, it's 25 from the matte line. So I'm kind of like working on names, so, oh, it's a great five. I'll remember it. Yes. Some of them have names. Some of them don't yet, but if they don't have name, they have a

francene:

number I love it. Well, honestly, that color it's it's beautiful. Um, if you could be anyone for the day, who would it be?

christina:

Um, I don't know. That's a tough question. Um, probably maybe a millionaire

francene:

I would definitely, I would be Kim Kardashian and I would just do whatever I wanted. Plus I would just walk into my closet and be like, this is mine and I would try and steal it all. I really do like her. Oh, me too. I'm obsessed. I can't even pretend to like, bitch about her cuz it's all just coming from jealousy. I love her I really do. Um, my husband would cringe. He overheard me say that. Um, yeah, people do. Yeah, they do. But honestly, like I feel like, um, if you'd asked me. Even just a couple of years ago, I feel like I wouldn't have been as positive, but what she's done for the skims collection is genius. Like genius. And I always say to people cuz they're like, I know, but it's like spanks and I'm like, it's not, it's not like spanks and it's I, I mean, honestly I have so many of the body suits. I have so many of like. The brass, the underwear. And I just think it's such a great quality genius items that no one else has bought. And I wish they would give her credit for it. Yeah. That's my twos Kardashian. I honestly love what is your life motto or that you live by?

christina:

Um, never give up, just keep going, you know, follow your dreams because I am a perfect example of not giving up and following what I really wanted to do. Um, even when. I thought that I had to give up on my dreams. Um, it wasn't easy, you know, jumping into, um, a business, um, just pretty much the way that it happened. Um, and I wouldn't rec ever recommend when you start a business to kind of just jump in, it just kind of ease your way in it, because it does take time to build. But, you know, even when I pretty much didn't have much and. Didn't know how a bill was gonna get paid. I just kept hope alive and I just kept pushing. And this is why, you know, the business fi you know, made it through.

francene:

Yeah. And I think, um, you know, maybe you will agree. Um, but sometimes having that pressure or the moment of I'm gonna do this, and I don't have something to kind of fall back on, like I will make this work also that driver cause to me, I would need to quit my job. I would need to literally let go of everything to be like, I'm committed. Because if not, that would be my safety net,

christina:

you know, but you don't have to like, you know, starting a business, you shouldn't do it that way. You should, you can take off, you can stop, you know, working a set of six days a week. You work four days. Focus the other three days on your business. And that's usually what I tell my girls when they come in for the training, I let them know some of them, you know, they don't really know how to start or they're they don't, they kind of, some of them take the class and never start because they don't have time because they need the income of working full time. Yeah.

francene:

Yeah. That's hard. I can't even imagine how many people are out there wanting to do their passions, but they're not in a position to do so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I guess that's why it's so good that you offer this type of training to help people kinda get to that position. But also part of the training is the advice that you give.

christina:

Yes. And business, a lot of business, my past, you know, from what I'm learning as I go and. That's awesome. Well,

francene:

Hey, thank you so much, Christina. I really, really appreciate your time. And for everyone listening, you can go find her at all in one beauty and beauty is spelled B E a UT I um, and then you also have all in one beauty training studio. So please go check her out. Have a look at Madeline. Beauty is me. Which is the products. Right. Awesome. Um, but yeah. Thank you so much. It's been a pleasure speaking with you and I'm definitely gonna try, um, the microneedling for my hat. I'm gonna see, and I'm also gonna get the rose, so thank you very much for

christina:

that. Thanks for having me.

francene:

Awesome. Have a great evening.

christina:

You too. Bye-bye.